GPT-OSS 20B didn’t really merit the fanfare even when it was released; it’s definitely not competitive now. Even the 120B version has been well eclipsed by smaller LLMs at this point. The last version of Qwen 27B/35B was better, and now the new one is even better than that!

Was there a more recent refresh or is this the model from a year ago? The frontier models were barely functional and almost useless a year ago (gpt oss was pre opus 4.5!) - I would be very surprised if the original drop is anything more than totally obsolete/irrelevant at this point

Yes, the old entirely stupid old gpt-oss. But Sonnet and GPT were very useful then already, qwen also.

I find that I remember models being a lot better than they were, even when I remember them being not very good - because of a novelty factor ("whoa it can do that now?") mostly. And then I go back and look at them and its like, what how did I find this impressive.

A funny example - I remember thinking "yeah sonnet 3.5 is a really good coding model"

https://stack.convex.dev/using-cursor-claude-and-convex-to-b...

>Prompting Cursor to Scaffold my App: FAIL This was my first hurdle.

>It became immediately apparent that I would not be able to prompt my way through the entire process.

>While the tooling we have is undeniably powerful, it's not yet capable of completing most nontrivial tasks

It couldn't run pnpm install lmao. Opus 4.5 was a crazy jump

gpt-oss is about a year older than qwen 3.8 27b