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I am going to drop a thought here to see what happens. If there is a difference between male/female retinas. Could this affect our perception of reality?


My guess: Only in trivial ways.

The fact that women see the world from a ~20cm lower point probably has real impact.

For one thing, guys, your nose hair is very visible from that height.


A few funny anecdotes in that vein.

A woman complained that her very tall boyfriend had hung a mirror in the bathroom. She took a picture of it. It was her reflection holding the camera level with the top of her head, and little else.

One that happened to me personally. I asked my then gf (5'1") what it was like being a small person, do you feel like a normal sized person in a land of giants? "Yes" was the instant response.

One very tall guy once remarked: "The tops of your fridges are fucking disgusting."


> A woman complained that her very tall boyfriend had hung a mirror in the bathroom. She took a picture of it. It was her reflection holding the camera level with the top of her head, and little else.

As a tall guy, there is a surprising number of bathroom mirrors where my reflection doesn't include my head.


You people need some taller mirrors. The bottom of my bathroom mirror is several inches blow my waist. The top is about a foot and a half above the top of my head.


> If there is a difference between male/female retinas

Is this even an "if"? It's well established that men are more likely to be colorblind, and it's likely many women are tetrachromats (most people are mere trichromats). The genes for the extra cone pigments are in the X chromosome, and are seemingly expressed more often when somebody has two X chromosomes. Similarly, people with two X chromosomes are less likely to be colorblind because most forms of colorblindness are caused by defects in genes in X chromosomes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy#Humans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness#Genetics

Perhaps most men and women, men and women with normal trichromatic vision, have identical retinas. But with genes so important to eyeballs residing in the X chromosome, who knows. But I'm left wondering why experts are particularly surprised by this result.


Surely not any more than my terrible eyesight does. I don't think my spectacles are altering my perception of reality.


Mine certainly do, because without them I would be blind.


They hurt peripheral vision if you get the kind with thick frames. You might be eaten by a lion.


I don't like philosophical questions like this. Let's say male blue is female red and vice versa. Our perception of the world is different yet it doesn't change anything as to how we understand and interact with "reality".


It is well backed up by science that women can see or at least perceive/brainlog a stronger variety of colors than men, and then this is expressed on women having a stronger beefier vocabulary when it comes to naming and identifying colors

So yeah, that's a thing

Also, what you are describing is called Qualia, and that is intangible qualities of how the brain processes data, such as the "yellowness of a lemon", or the "foot pain of stepping on unexpected rock shoeless"

Qualia can't be verbalized or compared between people because it is an inherent "brainfeel", you just need to expect others to have "at least similar-ish" qualias


Right, and children hear much higher frequencies than the rest of us. Just because you see more doesn't fundamentally change how we perceive reality. Like if someone says there is a color between eggshell white and snow white, I believe them because there is obviously a gradient there. I don't need to see their reality to agree on the state of it.


What's "fundamental" in this respect?

If someone is colorblind, and another isn't, does that entail a change in perception? Sure. It means the colorblind guy can't discern things that people with normal vision can.

A person born blind can't see anything and never has. They don't even imagine visual images (only images informed by the remaining senses). Their perception is unimaginable to me and mine to them.

So if women can discern more colors than men, it follows that they experience more colors which seems like a matter of perception. Have you never argued with a woman about the color of a sweater?



To me those colors are in order:

Red, Brown, Blue, Gray, Blue, Green, Yellow, green, Gray, Blue. Those linear color spectrums never made sense to me as a color blind person.

Technically I only see blue and green, but since people call different shades of green so many different things I start to call them stuff like red and brown. So dark green is brown, then as you go brighter it becomes red, orange, green and brightest green is yellow. White is blue + green, and since red is green pink is just white with less intensity, so gray.

Edit: Anyway, most men are one chromosome color better than me. Most women are two chromosomes better at distinguishing color than me. Makes sense then that women are way better at telling them apart.


Yeah - you are right. I thought about it and I guess since we can interact our perception can’t be to far off - otherwise we wouldn’t be able to procreate. It would be something out of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. A specie that because of a retinal differences between sexes is unable to mate.


I would argue that it does and that we conform behaviors to a standard, but there are alot of assumptions we make that lead us to not understand each other at all

There is a shared experience isolated to one sex that the other cannot perceive


If it were to affect our perception of reality, what differences could we find?

I'm guessing that it would affect our perception of reality in the same way eye color would.


No


Holy shit




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